Vedas & Incest in Bible & Quran

Mulla naseeruddin says that there is incest in the vedas and he also says that Swami Dayanand says so:

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Swami Dayanand Saraswati, in his book Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika on the authority of Rigved 1/164/33, uses immoral language to convey the working of the natural phenomenon. You can yourself assess the cheap nature of this allegory, which promotes and glorifies incest.

The Sun or the Sun’s sphere is called Savitur (the begetter) and Prajapati (the Lord of creatures). Light and Dawn are like his two daughters. Metaphorically speaking the one which is produced from the other is like the offspring of the latter which is like the parent of the former. The Sun follows fast with his rays his daughter Dawn of a reddish complexion. Having seized her he begets upon her the Day which is like his sun. The Dawn is like the mother and the Sun like the father of this son, because the Sun with his rays, which are like hs semen, begets the Day, his son, upon her, the Dawn.The Dawn is the reddish light on the horizon in the 2 and half hours of night before morning. By the intercourse of the father and the daughter is born a son, the full light of the day. As a son is born by the intercourse of his father and mother, similarly, here (the Day is born by the intercourse of the Sun with the Dawn).

Similarly, the rain-cloud and the earth stand to each other in the relation of the father and the daughter. The earth is produced from the waters, hence, the earth is the daughter of the rain-cloud. The rain-cloud by pouring rain water upon her makes her conceive. That conception results in the production of vegetables, etc. as their offspring. This also is an allegory. This borne out by Vedic texts.

Light of day is my father- protector and begetter – the producer of all activities. There is a mutual relation between the two. This extended or venerable earth is my mother. The rain-cloud and the earth are like two armies arrayed against each other or like the awning and the floor. The father rain-cloud pours the waters upon his daughter – the earth and makes her conceive. This is merely an allegory.

Rigveda 1. 164. 33.

The same allegory is described in the following Mantra.

The sun which is called Vahni makes his daughter, the said dawn, conceive by making his semen, the rays, flow into her and begets a son – the Day. Rig III. 31. 1.

[Rigvedadi Bhashya Bhumika, English translation; An Introduction to the Vedas by Ghasi Ram, pp 389-391]

[Source: http://www.vjsingh.info/int5.html ]

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My dear mulla naseeruddin , where are ur brains? The text in totality at http://www.vjsingh.info/int5.html is as follows

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  • Similarly, in the so-called “Ancient Histories,” the Puranas, the Brahma Vaivarta and others which are really of a recent date, are written very false stories of a sample as one takes out a grain of rice from the boiling pot in order to see if it has been cooked or not. In it there occurs a story that Brahma, the Lord of creatures, in flesh and blood, having four faces, seized his own daughter Sarasvati for committing rape upon here. This story is false because in reality it is an allegory.The Sun or the Sun’s sphere is called Savitur (the begetter) and Prajapati (the Lord of creatures). Light and Dawn are like his two daughters. Metaphorically speaking the one which is produced from the other is like the offspring of the latter which is like the parent of the former. The Sun follows fast with his rays his daughter Dawn of a reddish complexion. Having seized her he begets upon her the Day which is like his sun. The Dawn is like the mother and the Sun like the father of this son,
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    because the Sun with his rays, which are like hs semen, begets the Day, his son, upon her, the Dawn. The Dawn is the reddish light on the horizon in the 2 and half hours of night before morning. By the intercourse of the father and the daughter is born a son, the full light of the day. As a son is born by the intercourse of his father and mother, similarly, here (the Day is born by the intercourse of the Sun with the Dawn).Similarly, the rain-cloud and the earth stand to each other in the relation of the father and the daughter. The earth is produced from the waters, hence, the earth is the daughter of the rain-cloud. The rain-cloud by pouring rain water upon her makes her conceive. That conception results in the production of vegetables, etc. as their offspring. This also is an allegory.
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    This borne out by Vedic texts. Light of day is my father- protector and begetter – the producer of all activities. There is a mutual relation between the two. This extended or venerable earth is my mother. The rain-cloud and the earth are like two armies arrayed against each other or like the awning and the floor. The father rain-cloud pours the waters upon his daughter – the earth and makes her conceive. This is merely an allegory. Rigveda i. 164. 33.The same allegory is described in the following Mantra.The sun which is called Vahni makes his daughter, the said dawn, conceive by making his semen, the rays, flow into her and begets a son – the Day. Rig III. 31. 1.
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    In spite of the fact that this most excellent allegory was explained in the Nirukta and the Brahmanas, the Brahma Vaivarta and other books have described it and other stories other wise on account of misapprehension. No one should every believe them.
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As is obvious above these are allegories since the sun and the cloud do not have a male organ and the earth lacks a female organ:

The father rain-cloud pours the waters upon his daughter – the earth and makes her conceive. This is merely an allegory. Rigveda 1. 164. 33.

The sun which is called Vahni makes his daughter, the said dawn, conceive by making his semen, the rays, flow into her and begets a son – the Day. Rig III. 31. 1.

Now let us check in ur own house i.e. Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_Adam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve#Islamic_tradition

Judaism, Islam & Christianity say that the first man was adam and the first woman was Eve/hawwa. Mind u this is not an allegory. This is Islamic history. Now adam and hawwa are married off (nikah) [there  is no one else but allah to solemnize the nikaah at that time !!???] Then they beget a lot of children [acc. to bible] and 2 names are mentioned in the quran too i.e. Qabil and Habil. Arrey naseeruddin, what were the names of the daughters acc. to quran?? What did u say? Accha , allah knows best!!]

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/154309

Again, any person, muslim or otherwise will ask questions regerding to the incestual nikaah of the sons and daughters of Adam and hawwa[eve]. Islamic science comes to the rescue. The scholars invent an argument :

More than one of the scholars have stated that Allah, may He be exalted, ordained that Adam (peace be upon him) should marry his daughters to his sons, so he would marry the female from one pregnancy to the male from another pregnancy. [u can’t prove this  from quran alone . u need other books to prop up this argument.]

And state further that this caused a problem among the sons of adam !! One wanted to kill another [al-Maa’idah 5:27]. !! How so ???

Adam it seems, received twins [boy+girl] on each pregnancy and allah instructed him to marry a boy of one pregnancy to a girl of the other [as if the problem of incest gets solved in this way!!]. Qabil wanted to marry his own twin which was not favoured by allah and adam, so he MURDERED habil [wah wah, what a plan of allah. Allah has caused the 1st murder already].

http://www.theholybook.org/content/view/6964/2/

http://www.al-islam.org/gallery/kids/books/stories/part2.htm

What does the one and only true book of the lord of the universe say regarding this matter >
In the beginning few rishis many maneeshies and a lot of mothers and fathers were born [rig 10/130/6]. AUM is omniscient , not allah.

The question which the Islamists failed to address was that even if  ADAM obtained twins they remained sons and daughters of the same mother and father. Therefore we arrive at the following STATEMENT OF FACT:

ALL JEWS, CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS ARE A PRODUCT OF INCEST!

Now what will mulla naseeruddin do? He will go to his mentors [Uttar Pradesh/?]

This is what they will say:

All Praise be to Allaah.

As long as you are confident in your heart about your belief, no such insinuations will hurt you (inshaa’ Allaah). In other words, develop the hide of a rhinoceros [gainde ki khaal] and repeat ‘ALL IS WELL’  but don’t use your brains.
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/255

Namaste
[Namste means : Main tumhara manya karta hoon. I offer my respect/acceptance [not worship] unto you. Point no.100 in ‘Arya uddeshyaratnamala’ by Rishi Dayanand, Rs 4/- http://www.vedicbooks.com]

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15 thoughts on “Vedas & Incest in Bible & Quran

  1. Pingback: Incest In The Vedas. | Ramani's blog

  2. Explanations of the forces of Nature and its activities are allegorical in The Vedas.

    Even the names of the Gods mentioned are allegorical.

    The Sun,Surya means ‘Supreme light’.

    Mitra, one of the many names of Surya means ‘Friend’ for he sustains every one without discrimination.

    Savitur,the the begetter.the Principle behind the Sun-of its heat and light,

    Prajapathi, The Lord of all creatures, means the first-born of Mankind,Praja, Pathi.

    Ushas indicate dawn,

    Sandhya, Dusk.

    To explain the nature of the dawn and dusk the metaphor is used.

    If one were to understand the metaphor carefully, one will find the description of the process and mechanism of how dawn or Dusk is formed as accurate.

    When we talk of Mother nature, it does not mean that the Nature is one’s Mother.

    However there are some questionable relationships in the Puranas, some of them facts.

    They are explained and those who indulge in excesses are dealt with , the consequences narrated.

    One should be qualified mentally, at least he/she should be one who does not constantly think below the navel, to understand Hinduism and the Vedas.

    Hinduism is not founded by a Man who married a Widow, then Married an eight yer old girl and preached Morality.

    To the yellow shawl wearing ruffian Karunanidhi,

    ‘Moon or Chandra is a stage of Mental development,reached by controlling the different types of Breaths, Ida and Pinglaa.

    This is explained allegorically.
    Lord Brahma did not beget Sarasvati by intercourse , nor the Devatas indulge in Physical intercourse among themselves, they can not for tit is the definition of Devas. their eyelids do not batter,garlands adorned by them do not wither away and they can not engage in physical intercourse.

    Well , these jokers are from the group whose mentor Annadurai wrote a Book on The Ramayana, ‘Kambarasam’ in Tamil.

    While every one is amazed at the character of Lord Rama(assuming for a while the Ramayana is fiction), this learned man wrote the Book to raise an earth-shaking question,

    ‘Sita spent 11 months in Ravana’s custody,how can one believe that she has not been raped by Ravana?

    • Vanakkam, Anna.

      Our ancestors learned from the rishis how to obtain divine children. The method is explained in Manusmriti. Sage Manu tells us how to produce beautiful and intelligent dharmic boys and girls in 3/45 to 3/50 e.g.
      3.48. On the even nights sons are conceived and daughters on the uneven ones; hence a man who desires to have sons should approach his wife in due season on the even (nights).

      Ravan being a scholar of the vedas and following the manu smriti as his constitution could never even think of forcing himself on Sita. A child born of sin and violence will be worse than a varna sankar. And he would have lost his kingdom at that instant.

      Further, there was no inter-religious warfare in those days http://ved.in/?p=21. Both Ravan and Ram were arya putra. Political rivalry was the cause of conflict. rest is history.

      • My post about the way these scoundrels sully the name Hinduism.
        Yes, you are right on advanced concepts in Hinduism.
        For more on Indian Philosophy and Hinduism please refer “Hinduism’ Indian Philosophy at my site.

    • FOR THESTATEMENT”SITA SPENT 11MONTHS…..ETC”—For this you need a fair knowledge of sanskrit plus some perspective knowledge of vedic lore by proper tutelage;further one must read the original narration by sage vaalmiki&NOT THE DERIVED SUBSEQUENT TEXTS. he(sage valmiki) is not patronized by any king of his times.An official historian might distort the true facts. But as a free-lance biographer,an ascetic- contemporary, a man who protected Sita during her untold woes,an unpaid guardian of Rama’s progeny,etc be so bound to write any sheer nonsense as uttered by certain narrow minded bipeds?one must extend reason to a wider horizon; IT IS A CHALLENGE TO THOSE MINDS THAT” THE ANSWERS ARE WITHIN THE VERY VALMIKI RAAMAAYANA IT SELF”! RAAVANA HIMSELF STATES THE REASON FOR NOT MAKING SITA HIS CONSORT BY FORCE! THEY ARE ADVISED TO GO THRO’ AND FIND THEM IF THEY CAN; IT IS A REAL CHALLENGE TO ONE’S , MORAL UPBRINING,CIRCUMSPECTIVE LEARNINING, REASON UNJITTERED BY EMOTIONAL BRAGGING.WITH THIS ABOVE ONE QUESTION IS EXPOSED THE HALF KNOWLEDGE&UNBAKED WIT WITH DEDUCTIVE REASON—-THAT IS SO FAR!!

  3. The actual reason to discourage incest is related to biology rather than religious if closely related members of involved in the production of offspring chances for defective children is too high because the parents both of them will have same kind of inherited diseases (even though it doesnt show symptoms in them but chances for their children is too high).
    One can consider this concept is much similar to Crop rotation
    Crop rotation:
    Crop rotation involves alternating the species of crop that a farmer grows on his or her land each year. Rotating crops helps prevent pests from getting used to the type of plant that is being cultivated. Planting different species of crops each growing season also promotes soil fertility. Planting legumes, a plant that helps fertilize crops through nitrogen fixing bacteria that it has on its roots, and then planting crops that require high levels of nitrogen helps make sure that soil is healthy each growing season. And healthy soil helps protect against pests because an imbalance in plant nutrition increases a harvest’s vulnerability to pests, according to Mans Lanting of ETC Foundation, a non- profit that focuses on linking agricultural sustainability to social development.
    This concept is difficult to understand for ordinary people so they call it taboo and scare the shit out of people …..
    This can be considered as one of the best superstition

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