I thought of asking Mulla Naseeruddin the following question [in facebook chat]:
QURAN SURA TAHRIM AYAT 1
TAFSIR JALALYN [http://www.altafsir.com/]
O Prophet! Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you, in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Māriya — when he lay with her in the house of Hafsa, who had been away, but who upon returning [and finding out] became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed — by saying, ‘She is unlawful for me!’, seeking, by making her unlawful [for you], to please your wives? And God is Forgiving, Merciful, having forgiven you this prohibition.
WHY DID THE PROPHET SLEEP WITH MARIYA THE SLAVE WITHOUT A NIKAAH ?
IF A NIKAAH HAD BEEN SOLEMNISED THEN WHY IS MARIYA REFERRED TO AS A HAND MAIDEN [SLAVE] AND NOT WIFE?
WHY IS HAFSA AGHAST AND ANGRY [IF MARIYA WAS A WIFE]?
WHY DID THE PROPHET SAY “SHE IS UNLAWFUL TO ME [IF MARIYA WAS A WIFE]?
WHY DID ALLAH ALLOW THE PROPHET TO SLEEP WITH FEMALE SLAVES?
CAN MUSLIMS USE FEMALE PRISONERS OF WAR AS SEX-SLAVES?
DO WE SEE ALLAH SHOWING MERCY ON FEMALE SLAVES HERE?
Now coming to Surah tahrim, Ayah 1. The incident of mariyah is unreliable. All our classical commentators and hadith specialists have said so.
Imam Nasa’i says: “About honey the Hadith reported from Hadrat ‘A’ishah is authentic, and the story of forbidding Hadrat Mariyah for himself by the Holy Prophet has not been narrated in a reliable way.” Qadi ‘Iyad says: “The truth is that this verse was sent down concerning honey and not Mariyah.” Qadi Abu Bakr Ibn al-‘Arabi; also regards the story about honey as correct and the same is the opinion of Imam Nawawi and Hafiz Badruddiu ‘Aini. Ibn Humam writes in Fath al-Qadir “The story of the prohibition of honey has been narrated in Bukhari and Muslim from Hadrat `A’ishah who was herself a party to it; therefore, it is much more reliable.” Hafiz Ibn Kathir says: “The truth is that this verse was sent down about forbidding honey for himself by the Holy Prophet.”
In normal circumstances, this was nothing extra-ordinary, and was a very pleasing step emanating from very pious motives; however, every step taken by a Prophet of God has great importance in religion; since every deed of his is to become an example for the ummah, it is not permissible for him to do or say something owing to his personal inclination and for the dearest of his associations that even slightly exceeds the bounds set by God. If this is allowed, there is a strong chance that it would become a wrong example for the whole ummah. It is known that the Jews had prohibited the meat of the camel upon themselves merely because Jacob (sws) would not eat it for some reason. Similarly, if it would have come to the knowledge of the Muslims that the Prophet (sws) had pledged never to eat honey, seldom would a pious Muslim also not have done the same thing. For this reason, the Almighty checked the Prophet (sws), and asked him to immediately mend the situation.
I would like to draw his attention to the opinion of two other tafsirs:
Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
(O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee…) [66:1]. Muhammad ibn Mansur al-Tusi informed us> ‘Ali ibn ‘Umar ibn Mahdi> al-Husayn ibn Isma’il al-Mahamili> ‘Abd Allah ibn Shabib> Ishaq ibn Muhammad> ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Umar> Abu’l-Nadr, the client of ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd Allah> ‘Ali ibn ‘Abbas> Ibn ‘Abbas> ‘Umar who said: “The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, entered the house of Hafsah along with the mother of his son, Mariyah. When Hafsah found him with her [in an intimate moment], she said: ‘Why did you bring her in my house? You did this to me, to the exception of all your wives, only because I am too insignificant to you’. He said to her: ‘Do not mention this to ‘A’ishah; she is forbidden for me [i.e. Mariyah] if I ever touch her’. Hafsah said: ‘How could she be forbidden for you when she is your slave girl?’ He swore to her that he will not touch her and then said: ‘Do not mention this incident to anyone’. But she went ahead and informed ‘A’ishah. The Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, decided not to go to his wives for a month. He stayed away from them twenty nine days when Allah, glorious and exalted is He, revealed (O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?)”. Abu Ibrahim Isma’il ibn Ibrahim al-Wa’iz informed us> Bishr ibn Ahmad ibn Bishr> Ja’far ibn al-Hasan al-Firyabi> Minjab ibn al-Harith> ‘Ali ibn Mushir> Hisham ibn ‘Urwah> his father> ‘A’ishah who said: “The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, used to like sweet and honey. It was also his habit to go to his wives after finishing the ‘Asr prayer. In one occasion he went to Hafsah bint ‘Umar and stayed with her more than he usually did. When I found out about this, I enquired about the reason and I was told that a woman from her clan gifted her with a pot of honey which she offered to the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace. I said to myself: by Allah I will spoil it for him. I said to Sawdah bint Zam’ah: ‘When he comes to your apartment and draws closer to you, say: O Messenger of Allah, did you eat Maghafir?’ When he says: ‘Hafsah fed me some honey’, say: ‘The bees which produced it must have eaten the ‘Urfut’.
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
And from his narration on the authority of Ibn ‘Abbas that he said regarding the interpretation of Allah’s saying (O Prophet!): ‘(O Prophet!) i.e. Muhammad (pbuh). (Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee) i.e. marrying Maria the Copt, the Mother of Ibrahim; that is because he had forbidden himself from marrying her, (seeking to please thy wives) seeking the pleasure of your wives ‘A’ishah and Hafsah by forbidding yourself from marrying Maria the Copt? (And Allah is Forgiving) He forgives you, (Merciful) about that oath.
Obviously, the three commentators in the website http://www.altafsir.com confirm that the story of The Prophet sleeping with Mariya is true. Those muslims who find it difficult to explain the fact deny it. Mushafiq is one of them. At one place he says “Jalalayn is a later commentary.”
According to Mulla Naseeruddin’s cue, the Jalali’s must have read the earlier commentaries. Still, they chose to disregard the honey theory and report the sleeping with the slave theory. Were they not learned muslims? Al-wahidi while corroborating the intercourse with slave theory [Hafsah said: ‘How could she be forbidden for you when she is your slave girl?’], add the honey part too. Is Wahidi a liar too? And Ibn ‘Abbâs reports the marriage of the Prophet with Mariya and omits the honey theory [Probably it was too much for him to report the sleeping with slave theory] . So he slept with her but after marriage it seems. Why did Hafsa feel bad about it??
Does the reader notice the confusion!
Well, all the muslim scholars knew what had happened but they tried to cover it up! Mushafiq would have done well to show any place where a reputed Islamic scholar had discredited Jalalyn for this tafsir. Or if Jalalyn is rejected en masse. Or, a Jalalyn version without the controversial tafsir is published! None whatsoever.
I find that the Jalali’s are the bravest of the three authorities I quoted.
The Quranic text
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Why bannest thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O Prophet! why do you forbid (yourself) that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
YUSUFALI: Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom.
PICKTHAL: Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise.
SHAKIR: Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise.
YUSUFALI: When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his consorts, and she then divulged it (to another), and Allah made it known to him, he confirmed part thereof and repudiated a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said, “Who told thee this? “He said, “He told me Who knows and is well-acquainted (with all things).”
PICKTHAL: When the Prophet confided a fact unto one of his wives and when she afterward divulged it and Allah apprised him thereof, he made known (to her) part thereof and passed over part. And when he told it her she said: Who hath told thee? He said: The Knower, the Aware hath told me.
SHAKIR: And when the prophet secretly communicated a piece of information to one of his wives– but when she informed (others) of it, and Allah made him to know it, he made known part of it and avoided part; so when he informed her of it, she said: Who informed you of this? He said: The Knowing, the one Aware, informed me.
YUSUFALI: If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels – will back (him) up.
PICKTHAL: If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the angels are his helpers.
SHAKIR: If you both turn to Allah, then indeed your hearts are already inclined (to this); and if you back up each other against him, then surely Allah it is Who is his Guardian, and Jibreel and -the believers that do good, and the angels after that are the aiders.
So, we find almighty allah intimidating the poor wives into submission with threats.
And then Mulla Naseeruddin tries to invent similiar stories from the vedas:
Now let us see the interference of Vedic Ishwar is familial disputes.
Where are ye, Asvins (married couple), in the evening, where at morn? Where is your halting place, where rest ye for the night?
Who brings you homeward, as the widow bedward draws her husband’s brother, as the bride attracts the groom? [Rigveda 10:40:2]
Why is Vedic Ishwara asking them to expose their private diary?
Another familial incident is mentioned in Vedas.
Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman: come, he is lifeless by whose side you lie.
Wifehood with this thy husband was thy portion, who took thy hand and wooed thee as a lover.[Rigved 10:18:8]
Mulla Naseeruddinji, the Vedas teach human beings about the rules of life . These rules include rules for married life too. Further, these verses are for all men and women. There is no special treatment to families like those of the prophet in the Quran. That is why Allah is biased to the prophet in the quran and hence is not the true lord of the universe.
Urvashi complains to her husband Rishi Puroorva
“Thrice in the day did you beat me with a cane.” [Rigveda 10:95:5]
Wrong translation. The correct translation is :
Tri: sma mahn: shnathayo………..
The Ruler of the land should keep large forces to keep people on the right way of life and should also be able to enlighten the people with knowledge.
And sir, I would request you to specially read Yajurved 19:88 which is the perfect bed manual. I won’t post it here.
But I will . Here is the correct translation:
Mukham sadasya shir it saten ……………….Yajurveda 19/88
When a man and woman want to create a child, they should love each other by attaching mouth to mouth, eye to eye, mind to mind, body to body and proceed with intercourse.
ashwina=graha ashram vyavahar vyapinou.
so my dear Mulla Naseeruddin, the veda says that a man should mount a woman in the above fashion. Ayurveda [charaka sanhita ] says that penetrating a woman from behind or side will not produce a good quality child.
contrast this with the quran
“Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear God. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter),and give (these) good tidings to those who believe. (The Noble Quran, 2:223)”
This Noble Verse was clarified in details through the Sayings (Hadiths) of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him. Let us look at some of them:
“Narrated Jabir: Jews used to say: ‘If one has sexual intercourse with his wife from the back [The vagina as clearly shown below], then she will deliver a squint-eyed child.’ So this Verse was revealed:– ‘Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will.’ (2.223) (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Prophetic Commentary on the Qur’an (Tafseer of the Prophet (peace be upon him)), Number 51)”
“Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) declared that the Jews used to say: When a man has intercourse with his wife through the vagina but being on her back. the child will have squint, so the verse came down:” Your wives are your tilth; go then unto your tilth as you may desire” (ii. 223) (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 3363)”
“Jabir (b. Abdullah) (Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Jews used to say that when one comes to one’s wife through the vagina, but being on her back, and she becomes pregnant, the child has a squint. So the verse came down:’ Your wives are your ti’Ith; go then unto your tilth, as you may desire.’ (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 3364)”
“This hadith has been reported on the authority of Jabir through another chain of transmitters, but in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Zuhri there is an addition (of these words): ‘If he likes he may (have intercourse) being on the back or in front of her, but it should be through one opening (vagina).’ (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 8, The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 3365)”
“Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: Ibn Umar misunderstood (the Qur’anic verse, “So come to your tilth however you will”)–may Allah forgive him. The fact is that this clan of the Ansar, who were idolaters, lived in the company of the Jews who were the people of the Book. They (the Ansar) accepted their superiority over themselves in respect of knowledge, and they followed most of their actions. The people of the Book (i.e. the Jews) used to have intercourse with their women on one side alone (i.e. lying on their backs). This was the most concealing position for (the vagina of) the women. This clan of the Ansar adopted this practice from them. But this tribe of the Quraysh used to uncover their women completely, and seek pleasure with them from in front and behind and laying them on their backs.
When the muhajirun (the immigrants) came to Medina, a man married a woman of the Ansar. He began to do the same kind of action with her, but she disliked it, and said to him: We were approached on one side (i.e. lying on the back); do it so, otherwise keep away from me. This matter of theirs spread widely, and it reached the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him).
So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: ‘Your wives are a tilth to you, so come to your tilth however you will,’ i.e. from in front, from behind or lying on the back. But this verse meant the place of the delivery of the child, i.e. the vagina. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2159)”
So u see Allah allows men to penetrate women from front or back but Aum allows the standard missionary pose alone for getting a good child. And the Jews agree with the Vedas.
Imaam adh-Dhahabee (rh) narrates from Ibn Abbaas (ra), “Before creating the creation, Allah was above his Throne. Then he created the Pen, and it wrote everything that would happen up until the Day of Judgement” (Bayhaqi in ‘Asmaa Was-Sifaat). Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (rh) was asked, ‘Allah is above the seventh heaven, above His Throne, distinct from his creation, and His Power and Knowledge are in every place?’
Dear Mulla Naseeruddin, Allah above 7th heaven is miniscule as compared to the Omnipresent AUM. Therefore Allah is unworthy of worship and the quran is not the word of the Almighty.